Verticals Podcast — Start Here
How to watch + top 5 episodes
How to Watch & Listen to Verticals
Every week, we go deep on what it actually takes to build and scale vertical software and AI companies. No scripts. No softballs. Just first-principles strategy debates with the founders and investors who’ve done it — from $1B+ exits to first customers.
Every episode gets a companion essay right here on The Verticalist — a strategy write-up that distills the key frameworks, playbooks, and takeaways from our conversations. But the essays are the appetizer.
To get full episodes every week, subscribe to Verticals here:
YouTube (recommended)
YouTube is where we post full episodes, shorts, and clips first. It’s the only platform where you get the full experience — so if you subscribe to one, make it this.
Spotify
Apple Podcasts
Amazon Music
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Where to Start
If you’re new, here are five episodes we’d point you to first:
Ilir Sela, Founder & CEO of Slice (EP 1)
Our very first guest framed the thesis for the entire show. Ilir built Slice into a billion-dollar platform for independent pizzerias by running the reverse franchise playbook. The conversation on AI voice ordering pragmatism — 90% AI completion vs. 98% human, and why that gap is existential for low-margin operators — is one founders still reference.
Michael Saltzman, Co-Founder & Co-CEO of EvolutionIQ (EP 15)
The inside story of one of the first true Vertical AI exits: $750M to CCC. Michael walks through how they spent their first year with a single design partner generating ~$50K in revenue — then hit 8-figure ARR once the enterprise workflow clicked. Required listening for anyone selling AI into large organizations.
Chris Hladczuk, Founder & CEO of Hanover Park (EP 21)
Chris makes the case that the spreadsheet — not legacy SaaS — is the real incumbent in most verticals. A sharp episode on where AI-native tools can displace workflows that enterprise software never could.
Alex Niehenke, Partner at Scale Venture Partners (EP 26)
Alex brings the growth-stage investor lens to the “AI vs. the Giants” debate: can vertical AI startups win against incumbents with distribution advantages? A great counterweight to the founder episodes.
Daniel Friedman, Co-Founder of Moxie / Boulton & Watt (EP 10)
Daniel’s incubation model at Boulton & Watt is unlike anything else in vertical — spinning up multiple vertical businesses simultaneously with a shared operational backbone. The episode on picking what not to do early is one of the most tactical we’ve done.
The Verticalist + Verticals
Think of it this way: The Verticalist (right here on Substack) is where we write. Verticals (on YouTube, Spotify, and everywhere else) is where we talk. Every episode gets a breakdown here. But for the full 45-minute conversation — join us for the show.
Subscribe on YouTube and we’ll see you there, every week.
Thanks for watching!

